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		<title>By: dieta anului 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>dieta anului 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 02:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was beeing after the google for such information and just wanted to thank u for this post. Also, just off topic, how can i get a version of this theme? – Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was beeing after the google for such information and just wanted to thank u for this post. Also, just off topic, how can i get a version of this theme? – Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Noel Freedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Noel Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 01:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m retired; but did sell real estate in a multiple, in Seattle, for 43 years  Over those years the Northend Brokers Association began gobbling up all other multiples in the area; and kept changing the NEBA name to fit their expanding business.  -I am tempted to use the word, monopoly,  business.  So I did.
Now that I am not licensed to sell, I can only give an opinion and an observation:  Least we forget, Bill Gates machine is a marvelous tool to use by agents.  However, Bill Gates tool intent is, designed to eliminate the middleman and middlewoman.  However, I&#039;ve noticed since Gate&#039;s machine, more time is spend watching the monitor than time spent hitting the bricks.  I do think sellers would love to know all brokers share their exclusives with all the multiples.  So to cooperate in any fashion is gain for the seller.  After all the name of the game is to sell the seller so the seller can continue to trip the dominoes that lead to sales upon sales; and listings will follow.  Through the years, I&#039;ve always enjoyed the &quot;Key&quot; access where ever a lock box hung...but I wonder how long that will continue, once an insurance agency decides that it is not a good idea to insure a home that gives a key to every Tom, Dick, Harry and Jane who will open the door.  That happenstance would be bad news.  The good news?  I am glad I made my little pile off Sunday Open House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m retired; but did sell real estate in a multiple, in Seattle, for 43 years  Over those years the Northend Brokers Association began gobbling up all other multiples in the area; and kept changing the NEBA name to fit their expanding business.  -I am tempted to use the word, monopoly,  business.  So I did.<br />
Now that I am not licensed to sell, I can only give an opinion and an observation:  Least we forget, Bill Gates machine is a marvelous tool to use by agents.  However, Bill Gates tool intent is, designed to eliminate the middleman and middlewoman.  However, I&#8217;ve noticed since Gate&#8217;s machine, more time is spend watching the monitor than time spent hitting the bricks.  I do think sellers would love to know all brokers share their exclusives with all the multiples.  So to cooperate in any fashion is gain for the seller.  After all the name of the game is to sell the seller so the seller can continue to trip the dominoes that lead to sales upon sales; and listings will follow.  Through the years, I&#8217;ve always enjoyed the &#8220;Key&#8221; access where ever a lock box hung&#8230;but I wonder how long that will continue, once an insurance agency decides that it is not a good idea to insure a home that gives a key to every Tom, Dick, Harry and Jane who will open the door.  That happenstance would be bad news.  The good news?  I am glad I made my little pile off Sunday Open House.</p>
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		<title>By: BUZZYEAH by Andrew Meyer &#187; Brian at Trulia Clears Things Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>BUZZYEAH by Andrew Meyer &#187; Brian at Trulia Clears Things Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more about the push for industry-wide standardized data feeds over on the GeekEstate blog here and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more about the push for industry-wide standardized data feeds over on the GeekEstate blog here and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Deep thoughts &#38; a shameless plug &#124; Rain City Guide &#124; A Seattle Real Estate Blog...</title>
		<link>http://www.geekestateblog.com/open-letter-to-yahoo-google-trulia-and-zillow-encouraging-data-standards/#comment-6125</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep thoughts &#38; a shameless plug &#124; Rain City Guide &#124; A Seattle Real Estate Blog...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I need to write an Open Letter to NWMLS brokers, agents and vendors, similar to what Michael &amp; David Harris have done to toward the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I need to write an Open Letter to NWMLS brokers, agents and vendors, similar to what Michael &#38; David Harris have done to toward the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Price</title>
		<link>http://www.geekestateblog.com/open-letter-to-yahoo-google-trulia-and-zillow-encouraging-data-standards/#comment-5987</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete Flint of Trulia, David G of Zillow and Steve Shultz of Yahoo real estate have responded to the open letter over at Michael Wurzer&#039;s blog (FBS). http://www.flexmls.com/blog/?p=287

Glad to see the spirit of cooperation off to a good start. 

MP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete Flint of Trulia, David G of Zillow and Steve Shultz of Yahoo real estate have responded to the open letter over at Michael Wurzer&#8217;s blog (FBS). <a href="http://www.flexmls.com/blog/?p=287" rel="nofollow">http://www.flexmls.com/blog/?p=287</a></p>
<p>Glad to see the spirit of cooperation off to a good start. </p>
<p>MP</p>
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		<title>By: Kurtis Holsapple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurtis Holsapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love for this to happen.  I really think that it has to happen at the MLS level for it to be adopted as well, considering the amount of closed door business practice there is in the real estate business today.  It&#039;s going to be an uphill battle.

Companies like Prudential that block their email servers from working with other real estate mail servers (Keller Williams) makes me think that some companies really don&#039;t want open standards at all.  If they can get the advantage any way possible, they will.  Best of luck to you and know that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.plugmylisting.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PlugMyListing.com&lt;/a&gt; will follow whatever standards are adopted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love for this to happen.  I really think that it has to happen at the MLS level for it to be adopted as well, considering the amount of closed door business practice there is in the real estate business today.  It&#8217;s going to be an uphill battle.</p>
<p>Companies like Prudential that block their email servers from working with other real estate mail servers (Keller Williams) makes me think that some companies really don&#8217;t want open standards at all.  If they can get the advantage any way possible, they will.  Best of luck to you and know that <a href="http://www.plugmylisting.com" rel="nofollow">PlugMyListing.com</a> will follow whatever standards are adopted.</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer Rascoff</title>
		<link>http://www.geekestateblog.com/open-letter-to-yahoo-google-trulia-and-zillow-encouraging-data-standards/#comment-5974</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Rascoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea. We hear you at Zillow.

In my prior career in online travel at Hotwire.com, I was on the board of directors of an organization called the Hotel Electronic Distribution Network Association (HEDNA). HEDNA&#039;s primary goal was to improve technological connectivity between hotel companies and their online distribution partners though the creation of common standards. The hard work that HEDNA did to standardize connectivity in the travel industry has saved hundreds of companies tens of millions of dollars, and has immeasurably benefited consumers as well. While I&#039;m the first to point out the MANY differences between travel and real estate, the issue of connectivity challenges is one thing that we have in common. Zillow agrees that this is something that we can help fix, together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea. We hear you at Zillow.</p>
<p>In my prior career in online travel at Hotwire.com, I was on the board of directors of an organization called the Hotel Electronic Distribution Network Association (HEDNA). HEDNA&#8217;s primary goal was to improve technological connectivity between hotel companies and their online distribution partners though the creation of common standards. The hard work that HEDNA did to standardize connectivity in the travel industry has saved hundreds of companies tens of millions of dollars, and has immeasurably benefited consumers as well. While I&#8217;m the first to point out the MANY differences between travel and real estate, the issue of connectivity challenges is one thing that we have in common. Zillow agrees that this is something that we can help fix, together.</p>
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		<title>By: David Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, thanks for commenting (and for signing up for some of the RETS workgroups!). As far as the slow progress is concerned and what is different now, I guess the easiest way to put it is &quot;nothing drives innovation like competition&quot;. 

With the liquidity of listing data that exists today, many MLS&#039;s are seeing a vast array of feature rich, innovative solutions appear in their marketplace that depend on their data, but not on their software. So how long will it be before these external systems become the &quot;primary systems&quot;? 

Successful evolution and implementation of the RETS standard will ensure that the MLS remain in a central quality control role but still allow niche 3rd party service providers to address their market effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, thanks for commenting (and for signing up for some of the RETS workgroups!). As far as the slow progress is concerned and what is different now, I guess the easiest way to put it is &#8220;nothing drives innovation like competition&#8221;. </p>
<p>With the liquidity of listing data that exists today, many MLS&#8217;s are seeing a vast array of feature rich, innovative solutions appear in their marketplace that depend on their data, but not on their software. So how long will it be before these external systems become the &#8220;primary systems&#8221;? </p>
<p>Successful evolution and implementation of the RETS standard will ensure that the MLS remain in a central quality control role but still allow niche 3rd party service providers to address their market effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Price</title>
		<link>http://www.geekestateblog.com/open-letter-to-yahoo-google-trulia-and-zillow-encouraging-data-standards/#comment-5941</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Adopting standards is the key for real estate agents, brokers, multiple listing services and service providers to take advantage of business-to-business opportunities on the Web,” he said. “If you wish to participate in Internet commerce, you must be XML-ready.”

That is a quote from 2000 Inman article (http://www.inman.com/inmannews.aspx?id=18123) by Doug Greenwood, one of the early architects of XML schemas for real estate data. I can remember working with Doug a year or two before that in an attempt to bring together enough participants to establish a listing standard. It seems so long ago. Matt Kelly might remember more than I do about it, he was there too. :) 

I&#039;m hopeful that the new efforts can finally show some progress toward an end that seems to be taking a painfully long time to reach. I&#039;m not being a naysayer, I&#039;ve just been away from the issue for a while. I am curious as to what the reasons are for the slow progress to this point and how they can be avoided going forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Adopting standards is the key for real estate agents, brokers, multiple listing services and service providers to take advantage of business-to-business opportunities on the Web,” he said. “If you wish to participate in Internet commerce, you must be XML-ready.”</p>
<p>That is a quote from 2000 Inman article (<a href="http://www.inman.com/inmannews.aspx?id=18123" rel="nofollow">http://www.inman.com/inmannews.aspx?id=18123</a>) by Doug Greenwood, one of the early architects of XML schemas for real estate data. I can remember working with Doug a year or two before that in an attempt to bring together enough participants to establish a listing standard. It seems so long ago. Matt Kelly might remember more than I do about it, he was there too. <img src='http://www.geekestateblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m hopeful that the new efforts can finally show some progress toward an end that seems to be taking a painfully long time to reach. I&#8217;m not being a naysayer, I&#8217;ve just been away from the issue for a while. I am curious as to what the reasons are for the slow progress to this point and how they can be avoided going forward.</p>
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